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My 13th great-grandfather was Lord Mayor of London and a wealthy, influential goldsmith. My mother was always crazy about gold and jewelry. She would have been pretty excited to learn one of her ancestor’s healing rings is in the British Museum. I am excited myself.
Edmund Shaw (1434 – 1487)
is my 13th great grandfather
Elizabeth Shaw (1460 – 1493)
daughter of Edmund Shaw
Thomas Poyntz (1480 – 1562)
son of Elizabeth Shaw
Lady Susanna Elizabeth Poyntz (1528 – 1613)
daughter of Thomas Poyntz
Elizabeth Saltonstall (1557 – 1621)
daughter of Lady Susanna Elizabeth Poyntz
Henry Wyche (1604 – 1678)
son of Elizabeth Saltonstall
Henry Wyche (1648 – 1714)
son of Henry Wyche
George Wyche (1685 – 1757)
son of Henry Wyche
Peter Wyche (1712 – 1757)
son of George Wyche
Drury Wyche (1741 – 1784)
son of Peter Wyche
Mary Polly Wyche (1774 – 1852)
daughter of Drury Wyche
John Samuel Taylor (1798 – 1873)
son of Mary Polly Wyche
William Ellison Taylor (1839 – 1918)
son of John Samuel Taylor
George Harvey Taylor (1884 – 1941)
son of William Ellison Taylor
Ruby Lee Taylor (1922 – 2008)
daughter of George Harvey Taylor
Pamela Morse
I am the daughter of Ruby Lee Taylor
Dictionary of National Biography, 1885-1900, Volume 51Shaw, Edmund
by Charles Welch
SHAW or SHAA, Sir EDMUND (d 1487?), lord mayor of London, was the son of John Shaa of Dunkerfield in Cheshire. He was a wealthy goldsmith and prominent member of the Goldsmiths’ Company, of which he served the office of master. He was elected sheriff in 1474, and on his presentation the members of his company escorted him to Westminster (Herbert, Twelve Great Livery Companies, ii. 219). Shaa became alderman, and in 1485 migrated to the ward of Cheap, on the death of Sir Thomas Hill through the ‘sweating sickness.’ He was elected mayor in 1482, and towards the close of his mayoralty he took an active part in influencing the succession to the crown on the death of Edward IV. Shaa probably had financial dealings with the crown, and his intimacy with Edward IV appears from a bequest in his will for an obit for the soul of that ‘excellent prince’ and his sister, the Duchess of Exeter. He became nevertheless a strong supporter of Richard III, who made him a privy councillor, and whose claims to the throne he and his brother (see below) were doubtless largely instrumental in inducing the citizens to adopt. Shaa appears to have resided in Foster Lane, where, and in the neighbouring West Chepe, the goldsmiths kept their shops. He possessed, and probably occupied, the great mansion, with its adjoining tenements, in Foster Lane, in which Sir Bartholomew Reid had lived (ib. ii. 253).
He died about 1487, and was buried in the church of St. Thomas of Acon, where he founded a chantry for the souls of his wife Juliana (who died in 1493), his son Hugh, and others (Sharpe, Calendar of Husting Wills, ii. 612). This trust, with many singular injunctions attached, he placed under the charge of the Mercers’ Company (Watney, Account of the Hospital of St. Thomas of Acon, pp. 51–3). His will, dated 20 March 1487, was proved in the P. C. C. (Milles 12). Full effect was given to his intentions under the will of Stephen Kelk, goldsmith, who administered Shaa’s bequest under an agreement with his executors (Watney, p. 53; Prideaux, Goldsmiths’ Company, i. 33–4). One of these executors, John Shaa, goldsmith, may have been the Sir John Shaa (knighted on Bosworth Field and made a banneret by Henry VII) who was lord mayor in 1501, or a near relative. By another will, not enrolled, Shaa left four hundred marks for rebuilding Cripplegate, which was carried out by his executors in 1491. He also left property in charge of the Goldsmiths’ Company, producing an annual sum of 17l., to found a school ‘for all boys of the town of Stockport and its neighbourhood,’ in which place his parents were buried. This school was considerably developed and its advantages extended by the Goldsmiths’ Company (Herbert, ii. 252–3). Shaa also directed by his will that sixteen gold rings should be made as amulets or charms against disease, chiefly cramp. One of these rings, found in 1895 during excavations in Daubeney Road, Hackney, is now in the British Museum. On the outside are figures of the crucifixion, the Madonna, and St. John, with a mystical inscription in English; the inside contains another mystical inscription in Latin.
The lord mayor’s brother, Ralph or John Shaw (d. 1484), styled John by More and Holinshed, and Raffe by Hall and Fabyan, may without much doubt be identified with Ralph Shaw, S. T. B., who was appointed prebendary of Cadington Minor in the diocese of London on 14 March 1476–7, and was esteemed a man of learning and ability. He was chosen by the Protector (afterwards Richard III) to preach a sermon at St. Paul’s Cross on 22 June 1483, when he impugned the validity of Edward IV’s marriage with Elizabeth Woodville, and even asserted, according to More, that Edward IV and his brother Clarence were bastards. Fabyan states that he ‘lived in little prosperity afterwards,’ and died before 21 Aug. 1484 (Gairdner, Life of Richard III, 1878, pp. 100–4; FFabyan, Chronicle, 1811, p. 669; More, Life of Richard III, ed. Lumby, pp. 57, 70; Holinshed, Chronicles, ed. Hooker, iii. 725, 729; Hall, Chronicle, 1809, p. 365; Le Neve, Fasti Ecclesiæ Anglicanæ, ii. 372).
[Orridge’s Citizens of London and their Rulers, pp. 116–20; Sharpe’s London and the Kingdom, i. 320–2; Price’s Historical Account of the Guildhall, p. 186; Watney’s Hospital of St. Thomas of Acon, pp. 51–3; Sharpe’s Calendar of Husting Wills, ii. 612–17; Prideaux’s Memorials of the Goldsmiths’ Company, 1896, passim; Notes and Queries, 8th ser. xii. 345.]
Oddly enough I just learned today I had the wrong mother for Sarah Ann Lucy and look what resulted. Pays to check and re-check.
Edmund Shaw (1434 – 1493)
is your 13th great grandfather
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Elizabeth Shaw (1460 – 1493)
daughter of Edmund Shaw
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Thomas Poyntz (1480 – 1562)
son of Elizabeth Shaw
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Susanna Elizabeth Poyntz (1528 – 1613)
daughter of Thomas Poyntz
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Elizabeth Saltonstall (1557 – 1621)
daughter of Susanna Elizabeth Poyntz
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Rev. Henry Wyche (1604 – 1678)
son of Elizabeth Saltonstall
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Henry Wyche (1648 – 1714)
son of Rev. Henry Wyche
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Henry Wyche (1689 – 1735)
son of Henry Wyche
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Abigale Wyche (1718 – 1760)
daughter of Henry Wyche
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Elizabeth Brewer (1750 – 1835)
daughter of Abigale Wyche
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Nancy B Horton* (see pedigree) (1785 – 1868)
daughter of Elizabeth Brewer
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Sarah Ann Lucy* (see ascent pedigree) (1811 – 1866)
daughter of Nancy B Horton* (see pedigree)
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Burwell Christmas Evans* (see ascent pedigree) (1844 – 1889)
son of Sarah Ann Lucy* (see ascent pedigree)
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Ethel Evans (1887 – 1981)
daughter of Burwell Christmas Evans* (see ascent pedigree)
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Ethel Bennett (1917 – 2013)
daughter of Ethel Evans
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Frederick Edward Rehfeldt
You are the son of Ethel Bennett – (not you?)
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Yes, we are connected at the Wyche family …again!!! fabulous!!
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Actually I meant the wrong maternal grandparents…
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actually I had just fixed the maternal grandparents for Sarah Ann Lucy, and gone back to as far as the Wyche. Then I got your thing on Edmund Shaw and took the pedigree on back to him. What timing. Wow!!! Cool.
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synchro through the centuries
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What an amazing ancestry. It just keeps getting better and better!
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Sir Edmund Shaa is my 15th great grandfather, thru Katherine Browne nee Shaa, Julian Browne/John Munday, Roger Mundye, John Munday, Roger Mundye, William Mundye, Honor Mundya, Nicholas Turnavine, Gertrude Turnavine, Thomas Martyn, Gertrude Martyn, Gertrude Hiscutt, Gertrude Martyn, Samuel Symons, Samuel Symons, John Symons, William Symons (came to Australia), Violet Symon (grandmother), Venus Smiley, Keith Smiley – me. Could not find mention of amulet being in Brit Museum? Would love to see a photo of something Sir Edmund had made or whether the coins of the day were by him.
Cheers
Keith Smiley
keithos@
in Australia