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Dorothy Thatcher Jones, 10th Great Grandmother

June 23, 2013 , , ,

Sears family graveyard

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My 10th great grandmother married a Mayflower Pilgrim, Richard Sears.  Dorothy Jones was born about 1603, daughter of George and Agnes (_____) Jones of Dinder, Somerset. She married Richard Sears of Plymouth Colony by 1637. “Cady [i.e., Goody] Seares was buried the 19th of March [16]78[/9]” at Yarmouth.Their 3 children: i PAUL, b. about 1637 (d. Yarmouth 20 February 1707/8 in 70th year [gravestone]); m. by 1659 Deborah (eldest child aged thirteen on 3 July 1672, said to be daughter of George Willard. ii DEBORAH, b. about 1639 (d. Yarmouth 17 August 1732 “within about one month of 93 years of age;” m. by 1661 Zachariah Paddock (eldest child aged seventeen on 2 February 1678. iii SILAS, b. say 1641; m. by about 1665 Anna, probably daughter of James Bursell of Yarmouth

Dorothy Thatcher Jones (1603 – 1678)
is my 10th great grandmother
son of Dorothy Thatcher Jones
son of Silas Sears
daughter of Silas Sears
daughter of Sarah Sears
daughter of Sarah Hamblin
daughter of Mercy Hazen
son of Martha Mead
son of Abner Morse
son of Daniel Rowland Morse
son of Jason A Morse
son of Ernest Abner Morse
I am  the daughter of Richard Arden Morse
There is some confusion and question about details of her parentage and perhaps more:
Notes for Dorothy Jones” ‘Cady [i.e., Goody] Seares was buried the 19th of March [16]78[/9]’ at Yarmouth [Yar VR 125].” 318She was also said to have “died March, 1678/9; married 1632, Richard Sears”. 579“Her parentage, her birthplace and the date of her birth are as yet unknown. Mention of ‘my brother Thacher’ in the will of Richard sears has led to the erroneous conclusion that Richard Sears’ wife was Dorothy Thacher, sister of Rev. Anthony Thacher. The Sears Genealogy by Samuel P. May, contains this error. But Mr. May, in pen-and-ink notations, has corrected the copy of his book in possession of the Massachusetts Society of Mayflower Descendants, Boston, Massachusetts, and the case now stands as follows: Richard Sears and Anthony Thacher married sisters, Dorothy and Elizabeth Jones, who were of Dinder, co. Somerset, England, Dorothy marrying Richard in 1632, Elizabeth marying Anthony, early in 1635. Their brother was Richard Jones who came to New England in 1635 and settled in Dorchester, Mass.” 579She was the sister of Richard Jones of Dorchester and of Elizabeth Jones Thacher, wife of Anthony Thacher of Yarmouth.318“Dorothy [Jones], b. ca. 1603, m. Richard Sears or Sares, probably in Masschusetts about 1635. They accompanied the Thachers and others to Yarmouth, and Dorothy died there: ‘Goody Sares was buried Mar. 19, 1678-9’ (Descendants of Richard Sares pp. 23 f., 31).”567“It is not certain that she was his only wife, or the mother of all, if any, of his children.” 188“His wife has been identified as Dorothy, sister of Anthony Thacher. Richard referred to Anthony as ‘my brother’ and Anthony’s son John called Richard ‘my Uncle Sares,’ but in all Thacher family records, wills, baptisms and births, etc., no appropriate Dorothy has been found. It is possible that Sears married either Dorothy Jones, the sister of Anthony’s wife, Elizabeth, or Dorothy Batt, sister of Christopher Batt, and of Anthony’s sister-in-law Alice, second wife of his older brother Peter Thacher.”293“He married by 1637 Dorothy Jones, born ca. 1603, at Dinder, co. Somerset, England; and as ‘Goody Sares’ was buried 19 March 1678/9 in Yarmout (VR, 125; Sares, 14-15; TAG, 58 [1982]; NEXUS, 5:14). She was the daughter of George and Agnes (___) Jones.”511“Dorothy Jones, daugher to George and Agnes (___) Jones, was born at Dinder Somersetshire, in 1603 (Bishop’s Extracts for 1603). . . .She was executor of her father’s estate.” 511“Jones, Dorothy (____ – 1679) of Plymouth, MA. English home: ‘The Ancestry of Thomas C. Brainerd’, by Dwight Brainerd, 1948 (p. 219) says she was a sister of Richard Jones who came from Dinder, Somerset with Rev. Joseph Hull’s group in 1635. She m. Richard Sears in England in 1632 and he was taxed in Plymouth, MA the same year.” 458“Jones, Richard (1598-1641) of Dorchester, MA, Jones, Dorothy (___ – 1679) wife of Richard Sears & Jones, Elizabeth (1603-1670), wife of Anthony Thacher Volume 22, p. 50.It has been claimed, for many years, that Richard Jones of Dorchester, MA came from Dinder, Somerset, in 1635, with the group led by Rev. Joseph Hull. See Search Series Volume 22, pp. 50-51. It has also been claimed that he had two sisters who came over, Dorothy, who married Richard Sears and Elizabeth, who married Anthony thacher. According to Robin Bush the origins of this Jones family from Dinder have never been satisfactorily researched. He had now compleed an extensive search of the Dinder records and has found the baptisms of Richard and Elizabeth Jones. The earliest surviving voluem of the Dinder parish registers covers only burials from 1578 to 1637 (the second volume of baptisms, marriages and burial dates only from 1695). . . . The following entries were located in the Dinder Bishop’s Transcripts: . . .Richard son of Georg Jones Bapt. 25 June 1598 . . . Elizabethe dau of George Jones Bpt. 1 Jan. 1602/3 . . . ” 541“It has been claimed for many years, that Richard Jones of Dorchester, MA came from Dinder, Somerset, in 1635, with the group led by Rev. Joseph Hull. See Search Series Volume 22, pp. 50-51. It has also been claimed that he had two sisters who came over, Dorothy, who married Richard Sears and Elizabeth, who married Anthony Thacher. Acording to Robin Rush the origins of this Jones family from Dinder have never been satisfactorily researched. He has ow completed an extensive search of the Dinder records and has found the baptisms of Richard and Elizabeth Jones. The earliest surviving volume of the Dinder parish registers covers only burials from 1578 to 1637 (the second volume of baptisms, marriages and burial dates only from 1695).” 542“Richard Jones, the emigrant, has previously been identified with the son of John Jones of Dinder, clothier (evidently buried 24 May 1605), as recorded on a brass placed in the Dinder church by an American descendant in 1899. The above documents, however, include no evidence that John had children named Dorothy and Elizabeth: only a daughter named Susan (baptised 25 June 1598, buried 14 Jan. 1604/5), possibly by a wife named Susan, who evidently remarried John Hodges of Dinder, yeoman, by 1619. The documentation does, however, show that George Jones had children named Richard, Dorothy and Elizabeth and is thus likely to be the father of the emigrants. George’s wife was named Alice, not Agnes, as stated in the Search series, volume 22, p. 50). George was certainly son of Dorothy Jones, widow, buried 19 June 1614, and his father was probably teh Richard Jones who had a daughter Alice buried on 22 Feb. 1579/80 and who was buried on 10 Mar. 1585/6.”542“The manor of Dinder pass by marriage from the Hicks family to that of the Somervilles in teh 18th century. The Somerville manuscripts (DD/SVL) have been temporarily depositied at the Somerset Record Office (71 boxes) but have never been box listed, let alone catalogued in depth. Most of the records proved to be 18th and 19th century in date and Robin Bush failed to find any manor court rolls of surveys. By rapid sampling he managed to locate two boxes (DD/SVL, boxes 35 and 36) which contained earlier deeds and leases. These he searched in detail and located the following Dinder items relating to the surname Jones – rearranged in chronological order: . . . 1 Nov. 1615. Lease by Edward Rodney of Rodney Stoke, esquire, and Rice David of Backwell, esquire, to George Jones of Dinder, yeoman, Alice his wife, and Richard Jones and Dorothie Jones, children of the said George and Alice, in consideration of a surrender by Henry Foster of Wells, tanner, and William Foster, his brother, of a tenement, garden and curtilage in Dinder, with 8 acres of arable land, 2 rods of meadow in the common mead, 1 acre in severalty and half an acre pasture called Bottle Close, occupied by Henry and William Foster, and of a surrender by John Hodge of Dinder, yeoman, who held the reversion of the same, rent 2s 4 1/4d. DD/SVL, box 35).” 542“Dorothy Jones – Born in England, but baptism not found. Died 1679. She married Ricahrd Sears, whose will was dated 10 March 1667, codicil, 3 Fe. 1675 and probated 15 Nov. 1676. ” 542

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Hi,
I am researching mine and my wife’s Trees. In her tree I have produced, that her 10th Great Grand Farther was Christopher Batt 1601 – 1661.
And to say, there are many ironic things about him and US!

He came from Salisbury England. Came across to MA in 1638 with his Wife, Anne, Sister Dorothy and 5 Children and 3 servants.
He had a lot of connections in MA. Settled first in Newbury MA. Then settled in Amesbury MA and to Salisbury MA (which he is credited with renaming it too)

The ironic side of this is I live in Amesbury England, which is 9 miles from Salisbury England. To make things better I have 3 god-daughters living in MA and know MA quite well and hope to get it better with this information.

Now to what I would like to help you with and I still have to get to the bottom with, is with Dorothy Batt.

In your notes about Dorothy Jones it says that she married Richard Sears in 1632 in Yarmouth MA (funny I have relatives from Great Yarmouth England). But as she did not arrive in the USA until 1638 she could not have married Richard in 1632.

This lady is very confusing and there is many passages about the lady Richard married. I will still try to find more about her!

I hope this helps you and if you need any more please come back to me. Now I off to Salisbury UK, to take loads of photos of the Church and font where Christopher was Christened – as it is still in another church and still in use

Tony Browne

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Tony Browne

January 20, 2014

Hi Tony, and thanks for the information. I use ancestry and much of the info is passed around without proper confirmation, so I always appreciate proofreaders. I will look into my tree and see if there is anything more that might shed light on this.

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January 20, 2014

Here is one set of notes I found..another does say 1632 marriage in Yarmouth, but in the same document says that Yarmouth was purchased and founded in 1639..so there is conflicting data here:

Dorothy Jones was born about 1603, daughter of George and Agnes (_____) Jones of Dinder, Somerset. She married Richard Sears of Plymouth Colony by 1637. “Cady [i.e., Goody] Seares was buried the 19th of March [16]78[/9]” at Yarmouth.
Their 3 children:
i PAUL, b. about 1637 (d. Yarmouth 20 February 1707/8 in 70th year [gravestone]); m. by 1659 Deborah (eldest child aged thirteen on 3 July 1672, said to be daughter of George Willard.
ii DEBORAH, b. about 1639 (d. Yarmouth 17 August 1732 “within about one month of 93 years of age;” m. by 1661 Zachariah Paddock (eldest child aged seventeen on 2 February 1678.
iii SILAS, b. say 1641; m. by about 1665 Anna, probably daughter of James Bursell of Yarmouth.

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January 20, 2014