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November 11, 2012 , , ,

William and Lucinda Jane

My great grandfather, William Ellison Taylor, was a farmer and a preacher in the Church of Christ in Texas after the Civil War. He had beautiful handwriting which I have in the form of his Confederate pension application. He was shot in the knee at  Second  Manassas, but still had to get back to Selma, Alabama.  He survived to marry Lucinda Jane Armer, who ironically is a descendant of the Plantagenets. They moved to Texas along with Lucinda’s parents after the war.

The place and time Lucinda and William lived was an echo of the dramas of their ancestors who had Bible issues of biblical proportion back in their homeland of England. Lucinda’s family was playing music in the court of Henry VIII when he killed some wives and made himself the head of the new Church of England. Other members of her family were Plantagenets, being royal.

King of France Louis IX (1215 – 1270)
is your 21st great grandfather
Son of King of France
Son of Philip The
Daughter of Charles
Daughter of Jeanne
Son of Philippa
Daughter of John of Gaunt – Duke of
Daughter of Joan
Son of Duchess of York Lady Cecily
Son of Henry
Son of Henry
Son of John
Son of Francis Gabriell
Daughter of John
Son of Elizabeth
Son of Richard
Son of George
Son of George
Daughter of David
Daughter of Minerva Truly
Daughter of Sarah E
Mary Tudor disrupted the reign of the Plantagenets and made  martyrs of William E Taylor’s ancestors. The big problem was the way everyone felt about the Bible and who should read it.  William Taylor may have been named for his 8th great grand uncle, William Tyndale, who was burned at the stake for translating and publishing the Bible in English.  His niece Margaret was married to Rev. Rowland Taylor, also burned at the stake for his religious convictions.  The British Bible belt was worse that just burning crosses…..they actually burned the people they found to be heretical.
William Tyndale (1507 – )
his 8th great grand uncle
Father of William
Daughter of John
Son of Margaret
Son of Thomas
Son of Thomas
Son of Col James
Son of John
Son of John
Son of John
Son of John Nimrod
Son of John Samuel
Certainly William and Lucinda lived the Bible belt philosophy.  I went to the Church of Christ a couple of times with my cousins when I was visiting in Houston as a kid.  It was very foreign to my church experience, being fully stripped of all remnants of fancy dressing.  No pipe organ, no choir, no stained glass, very austere, and they went there twice on Sunday and again on Wednesdays.  I did not relate to the whole thing.  I grew up in Pittsburgh in a post industrial country club culture with cocktails.  I never understood the cousins and all that Bible stuff because my parents did not do it.  I think I am starting to know why they still had that in the Taylor family.  Once somebody dies for something, the least the family can do is go along with the belief for a few generations.

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So cool that you can trace your roots back that far. I’m sure there are lots of wonderful stories waiting to be unearthed.

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marc zazeela

November 15, 2012

Thanks, Marc, you know I am so into it. The stake burning somehow is very personal….and twice!! Never would I have imagined martyrs in the closet.

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Pamela Morse's avatar

mermaidcamp

November 15, 2012

I am very interested in this line myself. I have read that Henry Holland (1485-1561) had no legitimate male offspring (Encyclopedia. Britannica). Do you know of any records that establishes this? I am also also descended from Francis Gabriel Holland.

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Olav

July 2, 2013

Hi again. Feel free to remove my previous question if you’d like. I found, through a little more research, the tradition of the two illegitimate sons of Henry Holland, Duke of Exeter, and how the line proceeds from there. Thank you for providing the information on this page.

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Olav

July 2, 2013

Hi Olav, I am not professional, but very enthusiastic. I have found errors in my tree, so I know there is some false info circulating. I will check on Francis Gabriel and see if I find a male child. Thanks a lot for your interest, cousin..

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Pamela Morse's avatar

mermaidcamp

July 2, 2013

I have John Holland as the son, and not the only one:

John Holland of Namsemond is the first ancestor of the present Holland family of Nansemond (Holland area of Suffolk), VA. He was a headright of Lt. Col. Blake and Edward Isom who patented 2500 acres in Nansemond, Feb 20, 1664, for the transportation of 60 persons, among whom was John Holland (C.P. 444)

On April 20, 1682, John Holland patented 760 acres in the Upper Parish of Nansemond at the miles end of Walter Bagley; and on April 16, 1683, he patented 200 acres in the same parish at a place called Kinsale (?Kingsdale). Another patent was granated him April 20, 1694, for 500 acres on the east side of the Cape. A Henry Holland also patented 427 acres Oct 29, 1696, on back swamp of Summerton Creek.

The actual date of death of John Holland is not shown; but from circumstantial evidence it appears that he had four sons: HENRY, JAMES, JOSEPH, AND JOHN HOLLAND, JR. See following deeds from Isle of Wight Deed Book:

P.B. 10-358

P.B. – 358

Hathaway 11-444

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mermaidcamp

July 2, 2013

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  1. John Taylor, 11th Great Grandfather | mermaidcamp reblogged this and added:

    […] was in cahoots with royal Henrys VII as well as VIII, the tables of fortune turned on his son, Rowland, who was burned at the stake.  Royal and loyal did not always work out for my ancestors.  The […]

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  2. Lady Gilberta Godiva le Becket | mermaidcamp reblogged this and added:

    […] of Canterbury.  She is the ancestor of Margaret Tyndale, whose husband was burned at the stake for reading the bible in English.  Although they spend several generations as the official bottlers to the royal Brits (a much more […]

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