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John Talbot, Earl of Shrewsbury

September 10, 2013 , ,

Battle of Castellon

Battle of Castellon

My 17th great grandfather was a general in the 100 Years’ War.  He died in battle.

SIR J0HN13 TALBOT, K. G., first Earl of Shrewsbury born about 1385, married in 1406, Maud Nevill, eldest daugh- ter and co-heir of Thomas Nevill, Lord Furnivall, by whom heacquired vast estates in Hallamshire (including the Castle of Sheffield), in consequence of which he was summoned to Parlia- ment from 1409 to 1420 as John Talbot, Lord Furnival. On the death in childhood of his niece, Ankaret Talbot, in 1421, he succeeded also to the ancient Talbot estates in Linton and to the Baronies of Talbot and Strange of Blackmere. From 1412 to 1420 he served as Lord Lieutenant of Ireland; but in 1422 he entered into military pursuits and became one of the most renowned warriors of the martial age in which he lived. He gloriously sustained the cause of King Henry VL throughout his French realm in battle after battle, until the very name of Talbot became a terror to his foes. Once his forces were defeated by the army of the Maid of Orleans at the Battle of Patay in 1429, and he himself was taken prisoner; but four years later he was exchanged, and soon again in com- mand of an English army. For his brilliant achievements he was created in 1442 Earl of Shrewsbury and in 1446 Earl of Waterford. Later he was commander of the Castle of Falaise in Normandy (the birthplace of William the Conqueror), to which he added a massive keep, still known as the Talbot Tower. In 1453 he was again in command of an English army in France and was killed by a cannon shot at the Battle of Chastillon, 17 July 1453. He had been victorious in forty battles, and his death proved fatal to English dominion on the Continent. From this great Earl, the present Earl of Shrews- bury, the Premier Earl of England, is directly descended, (See Burke’s “Peerage” for 1904, pp. 1411-12; and G. E. Cock- ayne’s “Complete Peerage”, vol. 7, pp. 359-61, and 136-7.)

General John Talbot  (1384 – 1453)

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The Earl of Shrewsbury

The Death of Shrewsbury at the Battle of Castillon. Born1384 or 1387 Died July 17, 1453 Castillon-la-BattaileGascony Title Earl of Shrewsbury The Earl of Shrewsbury Earl ShrewsburyNationalityKingdom of EnglandWars and battlesHundred Years’ WarSiege of Orleans Battle of PatayBattle of Castillon  PredecessorNoneSuccessor John Talbot, 2nd Earl of ShrewsburySpouse(s)Maud Nevill Margaret Beauchamp Issue Parents Richard, 4th Baron Talbot and Ankaret, heiress of Richard John Talbot, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury, 1st Earl of Waterford, 10th Baron Strange of Blackmere, 7th Baron Talbot, 6th Baron Furnivall (1384/1387 – 17 July 1453) , known as “Old Talbot” was an important English military commander during the Hundred Years’ War, as well as the only Lancastrian Constable of France.

Contents[hide]
  • 1 Family
  • 2 First marriage
  • 3 Second marriage
  • 4 Early career
  • 5 Service in France
  • 6 The English Achilles
  • 7 Cultural influence
  • 8 See also
  • 9 References

[edit] FamilyHe was second son of Richard, 4th Baron Talbot, by Ankaret, heiress of Richard, Baron Lestrange of Blackmere.

[edit] First marriageTalbot was married before 12 March 1407 to Maud Nevill, daughter and heiress of  Thomas Nevill, 5th Baron Furnivall, the son of John Neville, 3rd Baron Neville de Raby. He was summoned to Parliament in her right from 1409.

The couple had four children:

  • Lady Joan Talbot
  • John Talbot, 2nd Earl of Shrewsbury (c. 1413 – 11 July 1460)
  • Sir Christopher Talbot (1419-1443),
  • Hon. Thomas Talbot (died before his father in Bordeaux)

In 1421 by the death of his niece he acquired the Baronies of Talbot and Strange. His first wife died on 31 May 1422

[edit] Second marriageOn 6 September 1425, he married Lady Margaret Beauchamp, daughter of Richard de Beauchamp, 13th Earl of Warwick and Elizabeth de Berkeley. They had six children:

  • John Talbot, 1st Viscount Lisle (c. 1426 – 17 July 1453)
  • Sir Humphrey Talbot (before 1453 – c. 1492)
  • Lady Joan Talbot
  • Lady Elizabeth Talbot (before 1453). She married John de Mowbray, 4th Duke of Norfolk.
  • Sir Lewis Talbot
  • Lady Eleanor Talbot (d. 1468) married to Sir Thomas Butler and mistress to King Edward IV.

Early career From 1404 to 1413 he served with his elder brother Gilbert in the Welsh war or the rebellion of Owain Glyndŵr. Then for five years from February 1414 he was Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, where he held the honour of Wexford. He did some fighting, and had a sharp quarrel with the Earl of Ormonde. Complaints were made against him both for harsh government in Ireland and for violence in Herefordshire. From 1420 to 1424 he served inFrance. In 1425, he was lieutenant again for a short time in Ireland.

Service in France So far his career was that of a turbulent Marcher Lord, employed in posts where a rough hand was useful. In 1427 he went again to France, where he fought with distinction in Maine and at the Siege of Orléans. He fought at the Battle of Patay where he was captured and held prisoner for four years.

He was released in exchange for the French leader Jean Poton de Xaintrailles. Talbot was a daring and aggressive soldier, perhaps the most audacious Captain of the Age. He and his forces acted as a kind of fire brigade ever ready to retake a town and to meet a French advance. His trademark was rapid aggressive attacks. In January 1436, he led a small force including Kyriell and routed La Hire and Xaintrailles at Ry near Rouen. The following year at Crotoy, after a daring passage of the Somme, he put a numerous Burgundian force to flight. In December 1439, following a surprise flank attack on their camp, he dispersed the 6000 strong army of the Constable Richemont, and the following year he retookHarfleur. In 1441, he pursued the French army four times over the Seine and Oise rivers in an unavailing attempt to bring it to battle.

[edit] The English AchillesHe was appointed in 1445 by Henry VI (as king of France) as Constable of France. Taken hostage at Rouen in 1449 he promised never to wear armour against the French King again, and he was true to his word. He was defeated and killed in 1453 at the Battle of Castillonnear Bordeaux, which effectively ended English rule in the duchy of Gascony, a principal cause of the Hundred Years’ War. His heart was buried in the doorway of St Alkmund’s Church, WhitchurchShropshire.[1]

The victorious French generals raised a monument to Talbot on the field called Notre Dame de Talbot. And the French Chroniclers paid him handsome tribute:

“Such was the end of this famous and renowned English leader who for so long had been one of the most formidable thorns in the side of the French, who regarded him with terror and dismay” – Matthew d’Escourcy

Although Talbot is generally remembered as a great soldier, some have raised doubts as to his generalship. In particular, charges of rashness have been raised against him. Speed and aggression were key elements in granting success in medieval war, and Talbot’s numerical inferiority necessitated surprise. Furthermore, he was often in the position of trying to force battle on unwilling opponents. At his defeat at Patay in 1429 he was advised not to fight there by Sir John Fastolf, who was subsequently blamed for the debacle, but the French, inspired by Joan of Arc, showed unprecedented fighting spirit – usually they approached an English position with great circumspection. The charge of rashness is perhaps more justifiable at Castillon where Talbot, misled by false reports of a French retreat, attacked their entrenched camp frontally – facing wheel to wheel artillery and a 6 to 1 inferiority in numbers.

He is portrayed heroically in William Shakespeare‘s Henry VI, Part I: “Valiant Lord Talbot, Earl of Shrewsbury, Created, for his rare success in arms”.

[edit] Cultural influenceJohn Talbot is shown as a featured character in Koei‘s video game known as ‘Bladestorm: The Hundred Years’ War‘, appearing as the left-arm of Edward, the Black Prince, in which he assists the former and the respective flag of England throughout his many portrayals.

Talbot appears as one of the primary antagonists in the PSP game Jeanne d’Arc.

See also

  • Talbot (dog)

References

  •  This article incorporates text from a publication now in the public domain: Chisholm, Hugh, ed (1911). Encyclopædia Britannica (Eleventh ed.). Cambridge University Press.
  1. ^ “Whitchurch”. Shropshire Tourism. http://www.shropshiretourism.co.uk/whitchurch/. Retrieved 2008-03-13.

Political officesNew officeLord High Steward of Ireland1446–1453Succeeded by The 2nd Earl of ShrewsburyPeerage of EnglandNew creationEarl of Shrewsbury1442–1453Succeeded by John TalbotPreceded byAnkare t TalbotBaron Strange of Blackmere1421–1453Baron Talbot1421–1453Baron Furnivall1421–1453Peerage of IrelandNew creationEarl of Waterford1446–1453Succeeded by John Talbot

Categories14th-century births 1453 deaths Earls in the Peerage of England Earls in the Peerage of Ireland English military personnel killed in action English soldiers Knights of the Garter Talbot family

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wow.. the history on this is really really great.. very impressive!

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Stevie Wilson (@LAStory)

September 12, 2013

Great history pam

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