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Sarah Odding, 8th Great-Grandmother

September 1, 2015 , , , ,

Home in Rhode Island

Home in Rhode Island

My 8th great-grandmother was born in 1609 in Cornwall, England and died in Rhode Island in 1681.  She sailed to America with her mother, step father, and husband in 1633. The group left Roxbury for Rhode Island because they probably were already Quakers.  The Pilgrims made life hard for Quakers.

Sarah ODDYN or ODDING, daughter of William ODDYN or ODDING and Margaret Lang (parents from England). Details on vitals still being confirmed: Birth 05 Feb 1609 in Madron, Cornwall, England; Death 05 Feb 1681 in Kingston, Washington Co., Rhode Island.

Sarah Odding (1609 – 1681)
is my 8th great grandmother
Eber Sherman (1634 – 1706)
son of Sarah Odding
Mary Sherman (1688 – 1751)
daughter of Eber Sherman
Thomas Sweet (1732 – 1813)
son of Mary Sherman
Thomas Sweet (1765 – 1844)
son of Thomas Sweet
Valentine Sweet (1791 – 1858)
son of Thomas Sweet
Sarah LaVina Sweet (1840 – 1923)
daughter of Valentine Sweet
Jason A Morse (1862 – 1932)
son of Sarah LaVina Sweet
Ernest Abner Morse (1890 – 1965)
son of Jason A Morse
Richard Arden Morse (1920 – 2004)
son of Ernest Abner Morse
Pamela Morse
I am the daughter of Richard Arden Morse – (not you?)

Sarah married Phillip Sherman (Shearman), son of Samuel Sherman and Philippa Ward.

Mr Phillip Shearman was one of the 23 signers of the Portsmouth Compact dated 07 March 1638 (13th signer) … a document 138 years older than our Declaration of Independence in 1776.

Sarah and Phillip had perhaps 12 children (other source says they had 11 children and all survived to adulthood):

Eber Sherman1634 – 1706
Sarah (md Mumford) Sherman
1636 – 1718
Peleg Sherman Sr. 1638 – 1719
Mary Sherman1639 – 1700
Samson Sherman
1641 – 1718
Edmund Sherman1641 – 1718
Sarah Sherman
1641 – ?
William Sherman1643 – 1646
John Sherman
1644 – 1734
Hannah Sherman1647 – 1717
Samuel Sherman
1648 – 1717
Mary (2nd one) Sherman1652 – 1729
Philip Sherman
1652 – 1731

References to Phillip Shearman and his wife Sarah Odding (Oddyn) being Quakers:
• “After Phillip Shearman went to Rhode Island he left the Congregational Church and united with the Society of Friends.” (Representive of Men and Old Families of Rhode Island, Volume 1, publisher Jeff Beers & Co, Chicago c1908, page 210).
• “In the meantime, Phillip Shearman, became a member of another religious order, the Society of Friends (Quakers).” (Going to Palmyra: Sherman Deeds, by Margaret Sherman Lutzvick, 1997, page 38).
• “Philip and Sarah Sherman joined the Society of Friends as did their children and their children’s children for two hundred years.” (A New England Heritage, by Frederick Barreda Sherman, c1969, page 64).
• “After he removed to Rhode-Island he left the Congregational Church and united with the Society of Friends.” (New England Historic Genealogical Society, Vol 24 Jan 1870 page 66: Article titled The Sherman Family, By Rev David Sherman).
*SOURCE: Alonzo Sherman (descendant)

Family and descendants:
While still living in Roxbury, in the Massachusetts colony, Sherman married Sarah Odding, the daughter of William and Margaret Odding. He and Sarah had a large family of at least 11 children, most of whom survived childhood, married, and had large families.

Sherman’s mother-in-law, Margaret Odding, married secondly John Porter, another signer of the Portsmouth Compact. With Margaret, Porter had one child, Hannah, who married Samuel Wilbur, Jr., whose father, Samuel Wilbore was another signer of the compact.

Among the many descendants of Philip and Sarah Sherman are former United States Presidents George H. W. Bush and George W. Bush. Other descendants include James S. Sherman, Susan B. Anthony, Janis Joplin, Sir Winston Churchill, Lyndon LaRouche, Conrad Aiken, Mamie Eisenhower, and possibly Marilyn Monroe.
*Source: Wikipedia summary of sources.

Family links:
Phillip Sherman (1610 – 1687)
Portsmouth Friends Churchyard
Newport County
Rhode Island, USA

In the list of admissions to Roxbury church, member #95 was “Sarah Odding. She was step daughter to John Porter & came with her parents & was after married to Philip Sharman of this church”.
COMMENTS: This admission was late in 1633, but her parents were much earlier in the list, and the family probably came to New England on one of the ships that arrived during the early summer. See JOHN PORTER and PHILIP SHERMAN.
In 1998 Patricia Law Hatcher discovered that Sarah Odding was born by 1612, daughter of “William Oddyn” of Braintree, Essex.

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Very interesting? Any connection to General William Tecumsah Sherman?

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Frederick Edward rehfeldt

September 1, 2015

What was the issue between the Quakers and the Pilgrims, Pamela? Competition?

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Brigitte Kobi

September 1, 2015

Yes,Cousin Rick Sherman…but also the Bushes and Marilynn Monroe..Brigitte, the Pilgrims were radical religious people who persecuted other faiths ( very harshly). The Quakers and others who differed with them formed the state of Rhode Island, next door. The Baptist Church was formed in early Rhode Island by one of the defectors.


Pamela Morse

September 1, 2015

Oh, now I understand. To me the notion pilgrim did not point to a specific faith but just to people travelling for religious reason from one place to another. I did not notice the uppercase P; if I had the penny might have dropped. Thanks for your explanation. Have a great day.

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Brigitte Kobi

September 1, 2015

Quakers until they moved as a unit to Penn creating Philadelphia had a terrible time with Puritans.. though it’s never covered in any school that I know of until you get to college. (Unless you do a research on the Quakers no one seems to be aware of the evolution/history of the group/culture/religion) That Philip was one of the signers of the Compact means he was respected. The 11 or 12 children they had that survived is downright amazing for that time. VERY cool history Pam!


Stevie Wilson (@LAStory)

September 1, 2015

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